Wednesday, March 28, 2007

Final (?) Update on HB BayArea

So last night was the last straw for me.

She texts me at around 10 or so asking what I'm doing and that she's bored. She wants to meet up, so I'm figuring cool, even though I'm dead tired, I can do a late night hook-up (porn music playing in my head). I go and pick her up and we go and get some drinks. I kino, things seem to be going OK. She tells me that she thinks she bruised her ear. I put my arm around her and kiss her ear. She puts her head on my shoulder. I kiss her head. She seems receptive. I then decide to try to kiss her on the lips. She turns and I end up kissing her cheek. I'm thinking, WTF man?!

I freeze her out. Take my arm off her, grab my drink and chill there not really saying anything. She re-initiates the conversation. Talk for a while, but then the place is closing so we get up and I take her home.

Get to her place and she opens the door first, then gives me a hug, then kisses me on the cheek, and leaves. I'm like WTF?!?!?!

So I'm not happy. I take off. I'm driving home and I think back to what Ulysses and Holiday have told me and I'm like fuck it, it's time. I'm almost back to my apartment and I turn my ass around. I go back to her place. Park and ask her to come down. I walk up to her telling her I was almost back home and I had to come back. Walk straight up to her and give her a kiss on the lips. She smiles.

I then tell her, "I don't think we can be friends anymore. I think we've crossed that line and I want more than that."

"I don't want to have to act timid around you trying to toe the line of friendship and something more."

"I don't like being your late night text and meet up buddy."

She looks kinda shocked and tells me that she'll "mull it over."

I tell her, "alright, I'll talk to you later." Bounce out of there.

I felt good, I felt liberated. I felt like I did what I needed to do.

Then after I got home, I felt sad. I felt remorse. I was like, what the fuck did I just do?

Went to bed and woke up. I felt good again, but now, I feel a little sad and unsure of myself. Fucking AFC stuff.

But I feel it was the right thing to do. I don't want to hang in limbo and be dicked around. I don't have time for that shit. I should have elaborated more to her, such as, I can't be staying up late just to "hang out." It fucks with my work and with my social schedule.

I feel as, Ch0n60 put it, that I was no longer the chooser and I just didn't want to be in that frame. I probably lost my frame somewhere along the lines, but oh well, it's all a learning experience and I'll use this and learn from it.


It was fun while it lasted and it was a good experience, but it's time to make some new ones.

Monday, March 26, 2007

The Ability to Plow

Since I haven't had any "real" updates to HB BayArea nor have I really had any FRs that are noteworthy, I decided to write about the all important ability to plow.

Many times, we, as guys and rAFCs, tend to eject out of a set when the opener doesn't hook. I know that I was guilty of this many a times when I first started sarging. I would open the set, the opener would only get a mild response, and then I would eject. I kept hearing about guys just plowing and getting girls to open up.

I didn't think this could possibly work. Just keep talking to girls after they don't seem interested in talking to me? How was this logical?

Well, it actually is. Girls are not sure what your agenda is and what type of guy you may be when you approach them. In order to show girls that you're just a normal guy, you have to be able to talk about yourself, tell them stories about yourself, and basically, just show that you're a normal guy.

You can't just ask them questions. These interactions should not be interrogations. They should start out 80/20 with you providing 80% of the conversation and your target providing 20%. It should then move toward 50/50 and then maybe even to 40/60. This is how all of your conversations should evolve.

Recently, I was winging for a friend and he opened this set of 3 girls. His opener didn't stick well and he asked me to come help him. I was introduced and could tell the girls were not very receptive. I began to plow, just talking about how I felt being at the club, the situation. I talked more about myself and my background. Slowly, you could see the girls' shields being lowered and them becoming more open to having a conversation with us. Unfortunately, my friend didn't really have anything to say and he ejected for both of us by saying, "well, it was nice to meet you guys" and then dragging me out of there.

In any case, the point of that short story is that even when a set seems cold and unreceptive, the set is not dead. All it requires is some balls and some interesting stories to tell to open them up. If you are not afraid of the social awkwardness that follows a failed opener, then plowing is definitely something I think all aspiring PUAs need to learn and master. It will increase your success rate and lead you to having more longer and interesting conversations with women.

Tuesday, March 20, 2007

My Field Tested Kiss Close

Once I feel that I have enough attraction from a girl and that I can go for the kiss close, the tech is actually really simple. Grab the HB and hug her. Kiss her on the cheek without letting go, then move your head towards her lips and...makeout! Haha.

Of course, this only works if you have upped the kino, the buying temperature, etc. It would also help if you kissed her on the cheek beforehand. By kissing her beforehand, it helps to put the idea of her getting a kiss from you in her head and lowers the chances of her freaking out.

Monday, March 12, 2007

FR: Restarting Something

A little backstory on the girl I took out on Friday, let's call her HB BayArea.

So I met this girl during the summer after my sophmore year at UCLA. She was originally from the Bay Area and came down to visit one of my good friends. He didn't know what to do to entertain her, where to take her, etc., so he calls me up and asks me to help him out. Being the good friend, I agree to help him out.

We hit it off pretty well at the time, but there was a slight problem. I had a gf at the time and I wasn't about to cheat on my gf with her (although she was WAY hotter than my gf. haha).

So anyway, she leaves to go back home and we stay in touch.

Fast forward half a year and I break up with my gf (not because of HB BayArea), but for other reasons.

After I broke up with my ex, HB BayArea and I started talking more and we would visit each other pretty much every other week, whether she flew/drove down or I flew/drove up. It helped that my best friend from high school was going to Cal and I could crash at his place.

But alas, during all that time and having a gf for so long, I had become totally AFC and never made a move on her. Things kind of fizzled, we got into arguments over stuff and we sort of lost contact. We still chatted every once in a while, but things were never the same.

Fast forward 5 years or so and she decides she's going to move down to LA. I meet her and another friend up for dinner one night and we leave it at that.

She texts me one night asking me what I was going to do and would I "be weirded out if [she] pops up? Lik stalking [me] and stuff" That was the essence of her text. So I play it off and start on a role-play where she's stalking me and this thread of her stalking me continues up until Friday night (this started in February - I know this because I have a bad habit of never deleting my text msgs).

This role-play was very helpful in the fact that I turned the tables on her. Basically, the undertone is that she's the crazy one that's chasing after me. it's not longer me that's going after her. Even though it's in a joking manner, it still sets that idea in her head.

During the last month, I had been busting her on how bad of a stalker she is. I had never even seen her "lurking in any dark corners." I gave her an ultimatum to shape up as a stalker or she could no longer stalk me. This coincided with the fact that the guy she is/was talking to at the time gave her an ultimatum that she needed to change or he didn't want to hang around her anymore, which got her pretty upset. By jokingly tell her to shape up as a stalker, I was turning her negative feelings into positive ones and having her associate that change to positive feelings to me. It got her off her negative thread and also got her off the thread about the guy she was talking to. The conversations focused on us rather than about her and that guy.

Anyway, fast forward to this past Friday.

So I was supposed to meet up with jeromevincent, ch0n60, and Ulysses at Cha Cha Lounge (I learned on Saturday that setarcos and 4Five6 were also there - sorry to miss out guys) on Friday night, but I got a late start to the night and decided against going to Silverlake to Cha Cha Lounge.

Instead, I decided to hang out with HB BayArea, a girl I used to date pre-community. I was totally AFC back then and things were completely different. I never even got the nerve to kiss her back then. However, tonight, I decided to change all that shit.

By change, I was determined to at least try to kiss her. If I got rejected, so what? I didn't care. This girl hadn't really been in my life in years, so if I fucked up, I wouldn't really be losing anything. Plus, a good undertone had been set in the previous conversations. If now wasn't the time, it would never happen. Coupled with the progress that I have made over the last couple of weeks, I figured it was time to put all of that to the test and to take the next step in my game.

I went to pick her up from her place (not really good logistics, but I would make i work to my advantage later on) in Santa Monica around 11 and headed off to Main Street. We were going to spend the night bar hopping and started at the Library. However, they didn't have anymore Chimay on tap, so I decided that we should go somewhere else (leader).

We went to World Cafe and she bought the first round (Compliance from her). I was a little cold (as in, not really in state) and the conversation was kind of forced, but that would soon change. She was telling me about her move down here and how she was late to class one day because she missed her flight because she was carrying a "50 lb. bag." I busted on her for not just shipping the stuff down. Then I talked about my flight to Vegas that I almost missed.

In our interactions before, as in 5 years ago, she would just keep telling me stories and I would have a little input here and there. However, tonight, I had my own stories to tell and would bust her on her stories. My vibing skills have greatly improved and tonight was a reflection of that. We got some mojitos and sat down and chatted some more.

We talked about the guy she is/was talking to. Enter the boyfriend destroyer. I basically started telling her that I could tell he was a nice guy and that he's sounds perfect for her. If you attack the boyfriend, she will defend him. If you play him up, she will bring him down. However, you don't want to play him up too much or she will think you're full of it. I played it just right and she started to go off on him. He's not physically attractive, he has boobs, he's a square, etc. I reaffirm that, now I can see why you like him. She laughs. I cut the thread and we start talking about something else.

Somehow, we get on a thread about being bi. She said that she's totally straight now. Now? I ask her about that. She says yeah, I used to date this girl, but I'm rough in bed and I feel like I'm going to break the girl. (she proceeds to grab my arm and squeeze it really hard - good thing I work out. haha) I don't show my excitement. I just say, "cool."

We start talking about this guy that she knows who loves popcorn chicken and she says that he said it's like having an "orgasm in his mouth." As you can tell, our conversations were very sexual. Good stuff. I vibe off that, make jokes, banter. Somehow tangent to talk about my best friend that went to Cal and still lives up in the Bay Area. She tangents to talk about some guy who has a boat up there in the Bay Area. Talks about how he was a player even though he has boos. I respond with, "shit, so THAT's why I don't get a ton of chicks. I don't have man-boobs! FUCK!" She laughs. I'm obviously disqualifying myself, but at the same time, she knows I'm in shape and I work out, so I actually have more value than those guys she knows (Value).

She brought down the guy she is/was talking to and I'm filling the void she has created, not by talking shit about him or playing up my attributes but disqualifying myself about attributes that aren't relevant or attributes that I have that I know are attractive.

During this whole time, I had been kinoing the fuck out of her (her shoulder, her elbow, knees touching, and later grabbing and tickling her). This was also something that was lacking 5 years ago. Essentially, I was a totally different person than how how she probably remembers. I was confident, cocky funny, kinoing the fuck out of her, and our conversations were really interesting. I was confident and I didn't give a fuck.

We decided to switch it up and go to Finn McCools. She put her arm in mine and we walked there arm in arm. We get there and get a couple car bombs. She's holding my hand. I would let it go from time to time and she would come back and try to hold my hand. Things were going just like I thought they should.

After our car bombs, we decide to go to Circle Bar to do some dancing. We get in and start dancing, but we have jackets on and she wants to drop them off at the car so we can dance more freely. We walk back to the car holding hands and drop off our jackets. I kiss her on her cheek on the walk back (Attainability). She seems to respond to it well since she giggles like a little schoolgirl after I did it.

She also has cigarettes and asks me to hold them. This girl has a total princess attitude and thinks the guy should do everything for her. However, this night, I made her buy me drinks and I didn't give in to holding her cigarettes. She kept trying to get me to hold them but I just kept holding her hand away from me all the way from the car (which was by Finn McCools) back to Circle Bar. I kept my frame as the more dominant one and she ended up being the one to finally give in and having to hold them (and then losing them at Circle Bar). If I gave in, it would have been like old times and all that was built up over the night would have been lost. During the walk back and her trying to give me the cigarettes, I was kinoing the whole time. Holding her around her waist and holding her arm out away from us so that her cigarettes were never close to me. Then I would hold her, grab her, and tickle her if her arm got too close to my pockets.

After we get back to circle bar, I keep pumping the buying temperature by leading her, kinoing her, dancing with her, being more aggressive, and being more dominant. She's totally into it. As we're leaving, she stops to talk to some black dudes (she has a habit of talking to random people). She's chatting with them and so I leave to go talk to other people. I'm not going to sit around and wait for her ass. I guess I could have played this better by integrating myself into their group, but I wasn't really thinking straight. She eventually leaves Circle Bar and comes out and finds me where I'm talking to other people.

She then goes and finds another black dude to talk to. They're chatting it up and the dude totally wants to get her number. He asks if we're dating and I say no, so he tries to run game on her. I'm like OMG, and so again, I leave her to find other people to talk to. After she's done, she goes to my car and calls for me, wondering where I am. I love it. I walk back to my car after I'm done and she's like, where have you been? I'm like, well, you decided to make friends, so I went and made some other friends. She doesn't seem too happy about this, so we end up driving back to her place.

On the way back, I get pulled over by a cop because one of my front lights is out. I start freaking out because I think I'm going to get a DUI. I know I'm over the limit and if they test me, I'll get a DUI. The cop asks for my driver's license and registration and tells me that he pulled me over because my front light is out. I tell him that I know and that I already have replacement bulbs which I promptly show to him. He says OK, let me run your license and registration. If it checks out, I'll let you on your way. Of course it checks out and he lets me on my way, but I'm still pretty amped up because of what could have happened. I decided to use this to my advantage.

I tell HB BayArea that I need a drink after getting pulled over and asks if she has any alcohol at her place. She says yeah, come on in for a drink. So we go into her place after I find a place to park.

We have a shot and then chill for a bit. She microwaves popcorn and starts feeding me popcorn (Compliance). It's cute. We chat for a bit.

I decide it's about for me to "leave." I knew all along that this would be where I would make my attempt. We give each other hugs. I kiss her on the cheek. While still holding her, I move my lips toward hers and she moves her lips toward mine and we start making out. We make out standing up and then I lead her over to the couch and push her over onto the couch (Dominance) and we make out some more. We keep making out. I start kissing her on her neck all the way down to her breasts. I lift up her shirt and start sucking on her nipples. This is the farthest I've ever gotten with this girl. We make out some more.

She makes out with me and then tells me she needs to go to bed so I tell her OK, and then let her go upstairs. She shuts off all the lights and I go upstairs to find her. We make out some more. Fall on her bed. Make out some more. She tells me that she'll call me tomorrow (she had previously told me during the night that she had to get up early and go to Riverside). I say, OK. I get up, fix myself up and leave.

This girl was a total challenge for me back in the day, but now, I see that the physical attraction was always there for her. I just needed to make the move and I did. holy shit, I made the move. I still can't believe I got as far with her as I did, but I guess it's all thanks to the community.

Looking back 2 days later, I totally could have blown through her ASD/LMR. I just needed to work it better. I guess I'm still too much of a nice guy - wanting to let her get enough sleep. Oh well. I'm sure I'll get another chance.

As for dating or getting into a LTR with this girl, I don't want that with her. She's just not the type of girl I'd want an exclusive LTR with anymore, but I could see her becoming a FB/mLTR.

Positives:
1) Perfect use of the VAC model in addition to DEVI.
2) Perfect use of kino.
3) Made a fucking move! Very Happy

Negatives:
1) Didn't get laid because I didn't blast through ASD/LMR - still too nice. Evil or Very Mad

Sunday, March 04, 2007

FR: Out of My Element

Yes, I'm Asian. Yes, I used to promote for Asian clubs, but for the first time in a year and a half, I went to an Asian club. I got burnt out from the Asian scene from promoting and going to their parties twice every week and I needed to get out of it. However, for this time, I would make an exception and go. It was my good friend's birthday and it was what he wanted to do, so I headed out with him to help him celebrate his birthday.

We ended up going to Tatou in Downtown LA. It actually wasn't too bad. My friend had gotten us onto the guest list because he is in with the head promoter (who happens to be the brother of the head promoter who I used to promote for -- small world). We got in easily and for free.

The night starts off pretty slow as we're trying to wait for a couple friends to arrive. We walk around some. There's some cute Asian chicks, but really, I'm not into them anymore (if you know my backstory, I used to date a really hot Asian chick and most other Asian chicks don't stand up to her, so I can't downgrade in that respect). I figure I'm just going to take it easy, chill with my friend and make sure he has a good time. Help him wing if necessary.

We walk around, checking out the scene. Go upstairs and walk around. Then I see these 2 hot non-Asian chicks. HB Promoter, a 9.5, and HB Promoter Friend, an 8.5. They are both easily the hottest chicks in the place. Pretty faces and both have banging bodies.

The only problem is that they're with 2 Asian dudes. Do I AMOG my Asian brothers? How do I work myself into their set? Fuck. I'm at a loss. I know I could potentially blow them out, but one of the guys looks pretty intimidating. He might kick my ass. That's one thing I hate about the Asian scene. You can't tell who's a thug-wannabe and who's actually cool. If you try to AMOG some guy, he might end up stabbing you for blowing him out. I had to play this cautiously.

I tell my friend about the chicks and he's like, good luck man. He goes and wanders off to do his own thing. I'm biding my time, trying to find the perfect scenario to integrate myself into their group.

They end up walking to the dance floor to go dance. I'm like, fuck, I just need to talk to people, so I start to wander around. I see this 4 set, 2 of who are wearing what I assume to be birthday hats. I open them with, "Happy birthday! ...to whichever one of your birthdays it is." *smile* The girls laugh, and tell me, "It's neither of our birthdays. You should read the hats closer, they just say 'Party girls' on them." I look closer and respond, "so they do! Those hats are pretty awesome." I introduce myself and get their names. Chat with them for a bit and bounce. They're not really all that interesting nor are they really all that hot, but I just wanted to get myself into a better state and be able to conversate.

I walk around some more and plant myself at a location on the second floor overlooking the dance floor. This girl, HB Tattoo comes up next to me and looks out to the dance floor. I open her with, "hey, I really like your tattoo. It rocks!" She replies with a "thanks." I continue to plow and push myself. I'm not satisfied with her one-word answer. "You know, I have a tattoo myself. It's on my back. After I got it, I really wanted to get another one. It's really addicting. It's like a drug. It's weird, they hurt when you get them, but you get into this state of euphoria after you get it done. Was it the same for you?" She responds with, "Totally! I want to get another tattoo myself." So I ask her, "what do you want to get?" She replies, "A phoenix all over my back." I reply, "that's awesome" even though I think that's unattractive. Girls with some tattoos are cool, but I don't want a girl with tattoos covering large parts of her body. I'm now in with her and she introduces me to her friend. We chat for a bit and then they get pulled aside by the dudes they're with. I don't really care about this set, so I don't try and talk to the dudes. The dudes leave and I talk to them a bit more before telling them, "it was nice to meet you guys" and bounce.

I'm now in a pretty good state and am ready to tackle my real targets of the night. I wander around some trying to find them, but can't find them. I go back to my "spot" overlooking the dance floor and lo and behold, they're right next to where I was standing. HB Promoter is dancing with some random dude. I toast him, "cheers!" He toasts me back and i continue to look out at the crowd. I've just started my integration. I've shown that I'm not afraid to talk to people. HB Promoter and the random dude stop dancing and the random dude comes to look over the crowd next to me. I introduce myself to him and we start chatting it up. He's plastered and goes to find his friends. He actually wasn't part of their group. FUCK! There's actually about 4 Asian dudes with the HB Promoters now. This is going to be tough.

Finally, another guy who's in the group with the HB Promoters comes up next to me to look over the crowd. I open him with, "hey, is that shirt from Express? I have that same EXACT shirt (credit jeromevincent)!" I actually do have that exact same shirt. Glad I didn't wear it. He goes on to tell me that it is and that he worked for Express for 6 months so he could stock up on clothes. We laugh and introduce ourselves. He then goes back to talk to his group of friends. Another guy from the group comes up on the other side of me and I introduce myself to him. This guy, Steve, is pretty cool. I'm glad I didn't go and AMOG him. We chat it up. he's actually a promoter himself. I ask him how he knows everyone in the group and he tells me that they're all promoters for the same company. Got it. None of the girls are with any of the guys. They're open for the taking -- for the gaming. HB Promoter comes up on the other side of me, so that Steve's on one side of me, and HB Promoter is on the other side. I introduce myself. By showing that I can conversate with Steve and that he's cool with me, I social proofed myself to her and she was willing to come up and talk to me.

We chat it up, talking about promoting, talking about whatever. We end up dancing. I kino it up this time. I'm touching her around her waist, on her shoulders, her elbow, everywhere that wouldn't be construed as creepy. I had lost sight of kino over the past couple of weeks, but I'm doing it perfect this time. She's totally attracted. I call her a "brat" and "trouble." She loves me. She grabs me to dance with her. We dance real close. I'm getting my sexual vibe out there. Things are going really well. She spanks me then turns around and spanks herself, so I spank her. HARD. She's shocked. I guess most Asian guys don't do that. I'm not like most Asian guys. She laughs and pushes me away. Calling me bad. I'm like, what? Me? YOU spanked me first. YOU'RE such a BAD girl! This goes on for a bit. Finally she relents and accepts that she's bad. We chat some more.

BUT THEN...her friend HB Promoter Friend comes and pulls her away. COCKBLOCK! FUCK! I forgot to disarm the obstacle. I was so proud of myself for integrating myself and getting rid of the MALE cockblocks, I forgot to get rid of the FEMALE cockblock. DAMMIT!!!

Anyway, my friend, who's birthday it is, finds me and we start chatting for a bit. I introduce him to the group who I'm now a part of. He's no help and he wanders off shortly after. Steve then starts talking to HB Promoter Friend and HB Promoter comes back and sidles up next to me. We start dancing again. I find out that she's half Hispanic, half German. She is fucking SO hot. I ask her, "so what's the best way to contact you if I want to get on the guest list?" She responds, "Oh, you're soo smooth. You should know. You're a friend of Steve's. I shouldn't give you my number." At this point, I about freak out. FUCKKK!!! I got too chummy with Steve. Now, she thinks I've known Steve for a LONG time. How do I rectify this situation? Rolling Eyes

I end up telling her that I just met Steve tonight. I don't know how to contact him. So she tells me, OK, I'll talk to you about it later then. I'm like, Fuck it. I'm done. My friend comes back and finds me at that moment. I tell them all it was nice to meet them and go walk around with my friend.

He's trying to talk to this girl but there's some dude following her around who's one of those satellite guys. He wants to bone her, but she only sees him as a friend. I tell him, alrite, let's go. I'll occupy him while you talk to the girl. We walk around and find them. He can't seem to get the courage to talk to her even though he's talked to her before and gotten her number. I'm like, dude, just go. He keeps looking at her. I tell him to stop glancing at her. If you keep doing that and not make a move she's going to think you're creepy. We're standing, literally, about 7 feet away from her. He says fuck it and we walk away.

We walk around some more and he wanders off again. I walk around the place and run into HB Promoter. We start dancing together again, but then...HB Promoter Friend comes over and pulls HB Promoter away. AGAIN!!! FUCKING COCKBLOCK!! OMG!! Twisted Evil

I just walk away. She's obviously attracted, but HB Promoter Friend is cockblocking and HB Promoter has some reservations about me because she thinks I'm Steve's friend. Man, I don't know what to do now. I'm pretty sure this set is over and done. Not much more I can do now.

I go and find my friend. We try to find more girls, but all I see are ugly Asian girls. I have a problem with comparing. None of these girls would match up to HB Promoter. I wouldn't be satisfied talking to these girls. FUCK. Oh well. Somewhere along the lines, I had found out that HB Promoter has 2 kids. At this point, I'm trying to lessen the blow of not getting her number by telling myself that I don't want to mess with a chick who already has 2 kids.

Walk around by myself. Go to get some water. Run into HB Promoter again. Is this chick stalking me? haha. We dance some more, but I'm cautious. I don't want HB Promoter Friend coming over and taking HB Promoter away. I think she senses the distance and that something's changed. I end up telling her that I don't think HB Promoter Friend likes me very much. She laughs. We dance for a bit more then she goes back to her group. I leave and I'm ready to bounce out of this place.

I find my friend and we head out. I go up to HB Promoter, give her a hug and bounce. I don't ask for her number again. I'm over it. She wouldn't give it to me in front of HB Promoter Friend and 2 other Asian dudes (not including Steve) anyway.

Roll home and call it a night.

I did get Steve's contact info. I could roll out there and meet up with them, but I really just don't like that scene. I'd rather move on and find other chicks...what do you guys think?

Positives:
1) Was social
2) Integrated myself into a mixed set
3) Got the 9.5 attracted to me
4) Got back to using kino
5) Got in some Compliance game

Negatives:
1) Didn't close
2) Needed a wing
3) Didn't use any Attainability game

Saturday, March 03, 2007

Mini-FR: Sunset

Not much to report in this field report. Sunset was pretty dead, but there are some things worth writing about.

Opened this 2 set that had been blowing out almost every guy that opened them (all the guys that opened them opened them from behind or after opening them, would hover over them -- such that they were standing in front of the girls while the girls were seated).

So I ended up opening them situationally (they were sitting on the swing chairs at The Standard) by sitting down next to them (in another swing chair) and opening them with, "hey, these chairs are pretty cool!"

They responded with, "yeah, they are."

Started talking to them about the crowd, how it was pretty dead.

Got a sense for who they are, just asking general questions.

Called the hotter one (HB BowTie) a "brat," don't remember why.

It got both of them laughing.

I let the convo die off, but the less hotter one (still pretty attractive), opened me back up, so we all still chatted some more.

HB Bow Tie was telling me about her brother, who spins techno and trance, so I was like, "that's awesome, I actually used to go to raves and love that kind of music." She said he was going to come here and I should meet him, so I told her I'd love to.

Ch0n60 came over to wing after he helped the Iconoclast but the set up of the chair swings and stuff didn't work out well and we ended up sitting too close together and being uncomfortable, so we decided to move on and left the girls.

I told HB Bow Tie to introduce me to her brother when he gets here and she agreed.

We go back to our "spot" and chill and decide to bounce because the place is seriously dead.

Go back to HB BowTie and her friend and ask her to take a picture of the 3 of us, Ch0n60, Iconoclast, and myself. They take the picture of us and then tell Iconoclast to take a picture of the girls and me. They didn't want to take a picture, LSE or something, I dunno'. Oh well, whatever. I get up and we leave.

Ended up talking to a fairly attractive 30 year old chick from London (i dunno' why, but if a chick is from England, I find her more attractive) and another chick while waiting in line for the unisex bathrooms. They were pretty cool, but nothing really happened out of it.

Wandered to Saddle Ranch, which sucked even more.

Then to Trocadero. The place was pretty dead as well, but there was one thing of interest/hilarity.

Ch0n60 and I were standing, facing the same direction. This REALLY drunk girl was wandering all over the place. She ended up standing in front of me, trying to call someone on the phone. Ch0n60 then asked me, "hey, do you want to get out of here?" but the drunk girl thought he was talking to her and she freaked out, looked at him like, "what the fuck, are you serious?!" and then walked off. I couldn't stop laughing, it was fucking hysterical.

We ended up bouncing and then going to eat at Mel's Diner.

Not many sets, but overall, good times.